[CVALE] Oracle offering to service Red Hat Linux distributions...

[Dennis Baker]

The big think I see about Oracle's move that stinks is that they are not
creating their own distro or even forking an existing distro like Mandrake
did.  They are simply going directly after Redhat's cutomers and competing
on straight price.  That's what I think is crap about the deal.

"If your application runs on Red Hat today, that application will run
unchanged when you're getting Oracle support," Ellison said. "It's very
important not to fragment the Linux market. Every time Red Hat comes out
with a new version, we're going to sync our version with that version. All
we add is bug fixes." -- Larry Ellison

The ironic part about this is... what happens if the parasite kills the
host?  The who will Oracle copy?

-- Dennis

On 10/28/06, Wayne Vieira <Wayne.Vieira at sun.com> wrote:
>
>  I think this is generally positive.  There are a lot of distros out
> there, but only two with any serious corporate support, i.e. RedHat (RHEL,
> RHED, FedoraCore) and SuSE (SLES, SLD, OpenSuSE).  Just as RHEL and RHED
> benefit from FedorCore (and vice versa), won't Oracle Ubuntu help 'Open'
> Ubuntu?
>
> Oracle must also see this as getting to do things that they can't get
> RedHat or SuSE to do.  One might think that all of the distributions would
> benefit from this.  A company I used to work for was trying to get RH to
> support some features unsuccessfully, until we went to SuSE and got them to
> go ahead.  After seeing some of the successes on SLES, RedHat finally added
> them to RHEL.
>
> Wayne
>
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> *From:* cvale-bounces at luaren.pc-intouch.com [mailto:
> cvale-bounces at luaren.pc-intouch.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Baker
> *Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2006 10:21 PM
> *To:* cvale at cvale.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CVALE] Oracle offering to service Red Hat Linux
> distributions...
>
> First the Peoplesoft takeover now this?  Personally I think the business
> term is "Bad Neighbor".  I would certainly be a little cautious getting into
> a business deal with them.
>
> As an Oracle Administrator I can really see the appeal of this though.
> I'm not a big fan of the idea of paying for OS support but having a version
> of Linux that is more or less designed around running Oracle has a lot of
> appeal.  Additionally for those companies who do want to pay for commercial
> support it's much easier to deal with just one vendor for OS and Database
> support.  Less finger pointing in any case.
>
> I'm not certain that there is a lot of traction for this outside of
> existing Oracle customers though.  Red Hat has a reputation and a history
> with Linux. I gues history will tell.  One thing about this that has me
> interested is that this news coming shortly after a dissapointing quarter
> has Redhat's stock in the cellar.  Down to $15/ share from it's recent high
> of $26 or so... ouch.   I'm thinking it might be a good time to finally take
> a small stake in a Linux company.
>
> -- Dennis
>
> On 10/27/06, Matt R Hall <mhall at mhcomputing.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/27/06, david burzota <david_burzota at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > No thoughts really, just some questions, like:
> > >
> > > Does this mean Oracle is not making enough money on it's database
> > products?
> > > or more generally: Why is Larry Ellison doing this?
> >
> > My personal guess is with OCFS / OCFS2 in the 2.6.x mainline, they are
> > planning on making a big move on clustering. With IBM increasingly
> > focused on the data center and services, and HP focused on blades,
> > this might not be a bad play if they are looking to maintain revenue
> > growth in the long run. Maybe they are trying to generalize as they
> > did when they purchased PeopleSoft. I think the business term is
> > 'horizontal consolidation'.
> >
> > Just an idea,
> > Matt
> >
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